On today's episode, Jessica hosts a conversation with Dr. Antoinette Jackson and Delande Justinavil about Black cemeteries. We talk about their work and how their efforts fit into larger efforts to learn more about and protect Black cemeteries. We talk about the importance of using a variety of methods and disciplines to understand this important topic, as well as the necessity of including living people and art to inform this work and speak to the general public. The discussion includes the importance of reframing away from the idea of Black cemeteries as “abandoned” and the many layered efforts necessary to protect Black cemeteries holistically.