00:01.35 archpodnet Hello and welcome to the CRM archeological podcast episode 252 and today I am your host Andrew Kinkela and joining me are Heather from California. 00:14.99 Heather Hi everyone. 00:18.14 archpodnet And bill from currently is it denmark at the moment Bill. 00:23.35 Bill White Yeah, yeah, I'm actually in arhus Denmark it's like five o'clock at night 00:30.49 archpodnet Um, oh my God That's that's cool man. Um, what are you there for. 00:36.33 Bill White Yeah, just a bunch of professor stuff. Ah, ah, checking out some different heritage sites and doing some research while I'm over here. So yeah, no joke just like in. Um. 00:38.14 archpodnet A. And the secret professor meeting that's over there too right. 00:51.80 Bill White Several of the episodes of Austin Powers there's you know a hidden base. There's a volcano that no one knew about in Denmark that like underneath that is that all the evil professors are all trying to figure out how we're going to rule the world. 00:54.57 archpodnet Um, yeah. 00:55.20 Heather Ooh. 01:02.19 archpodnet Um, I knew it. 01:03.75 Heather Well, that's that's not a complete um you don't have a complete collection because Andrew's not there of all the evil professors. 01:09.94 archpodnet Well. 01:10.54 Bill White Who well also the other problem is I don't I don't think there's evil professors here in Denmark either. 01:18.70 archpodnet No, they they ah they leave me out I'm the one that's left out in case, there's a disaster there. There can be 1 evil professor left so they leave me stateside. Yeah yeah, so. 01:27.84 Heather Oh oh that makes sense that makes sense. Okay, ah. 01:28.83 Bill White Ah. Ah, all right? nice. Ah. 01:33.69 archpodnet For our topic today. Um, this is Heather and heather will be discussing the peer review process specifically in Crm. Um, and I'm really interested to talk about this because I think while Bill and I have lots of experience in the peer review side of academia. I know that I personally have none in the crm side because you know I would be monitoring or whatever in my crm gigs and I never had that higher end experience. So Heather if you could just give us the background on what we're talking about and we'll go from there. 02:08.93 Heather Sure, Um, so you know this was you know it's been a topic in the back of my head for a while but just recently had an experience with one of my colleagues. Um at the company that I work. That ah a certain company did a peer review of a of a report and it was clear that the peer review was almost retribution for a previous peer review that they had done on that other company and it was ugly. It was just. Not nice. Um I Actually I don't like doing peer reviews I Ah really don't Um, it's but but sometimes in my in my head. Well you know we have agencies that really trust us or or me and want us to be the ones that do the peer review. 02:44.78 archpodnet In. 03:00.94 Heather And in a way I think about it and like you know, maybe it's better for me to do it than somebody who like the one you know who would create a peer review like the one that we just that I just read this week and so I thought you know what? hey at least I'm going to do it with respect. 03:12.67 archpodnet Yeah. 03:19.89 Heather And I in In fact, my peer review I have like a boilerplate language that I put in the very beginning that talks about how this is intended to only help and is intended as a friendly, respectful. Um, ah. Not even a critique but but a coaching in a way um of a colleague and and their work and I when I go at a peer review for Crm. Um, so just to be clear what a peer review and Crm is very much like. 03:38.51 archpodnet Right. 03:56.86 Heather An Academic peer review An Academic Peer review. The the focus is well let's say first we'll start with the definition The ah official definition is the process of subjecting an author's scholarly work research or ideas to the scrutiny of others who were experts in the same field. So That's pretty broad and that covers. Um. Crm as Well. One of the aspects. Um, that has been used more often now. The purpose is for agencies to make sure that the report is correct ah from an archeology side. Ah, where maybe the the agency. When I'm talking about agency like a city or a county or whoever the report is turned into submitted to um, they're not archeologists. They don't know many times they don't have an archeologist on on staff and so they don't know what they're reading and whether or not it's correct and so in order to make sure that that is the case they'll have. 04:41.74 archpodnet Um, right. 04:55.71 Heather Another archeologist review it and so you know the main thing is is that you know might I think what the agency cares about is they want to make sure that um that it's following the regulatory side of things. 04:58.87 archpodnet Um, look. 05:10.89 archpodnet Oops heather we have seemed to lost you for a second. Um I'll see if the audio comes back and then bill will obviously get you. 05:15.82 Heather Hello. Ah hello Hello Hello Hello Hello. Ah. 05:23.56 Bill White Yeah, hopefully she comes back. She looks like she's online. Still oh well, we can't hear you. 05:26.12 archpodnet Let's I know Yeah, she's typing the ice. Yeah. 05:33.30 Heather Um, weird. 05:39.40 archpodnet No, your wave's gone. Oh wait. Nope Yeah, no, it's gone. 05:42.80 Heather Okay, um, shoot wait low Hello Hello okay hold on. 05:42.46 Bill White No, ah ah yeah, there's no wave. 05:50.60 archpodnet Okay. 05:54.58 Heather Weird. 05:57.70 Bill White So I think ah if something like this happens we have to stop the track or can she just unplug her headphones and then come back like. 06:04.75 archpodnet I'm gonna.